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Tamra Judge took aim at Shannon Beador and their past friendship while appearing on a podcast last month.
Before reflecting on her behavior at Katie Ginella‘s dinner party on last week’s episode of The Real Housewives of Orange County, insisting that her verbal attack against Ryan Boyajian, 46, was not pre-planned, Tamra, 57, described Shannon, 60, as “calculated” as she accused her of playing the victim on the Bravo reality series.
“[Shannon is] smart and extremely calculated,” Tamra said on the September 18 episode of the Watch What Crappens podcast, via Heavy. “Her superpower is playing victim. She’s been doing it for 10 years.”
While Tamra has taken heat for her brutal criticism of Shannon’s post-DUI drinking and her suggestion that Shannon is an “alcoholic,” she defended her claims on the podcast and insisted she was there for her then-friend after her arrest.
“I was crying on the phone with her. ‘I’m sorry.’ But I said, ‘Listen, this is a wake-up call. You have a drinking problem. Nobody got hurt. It’s a wake-up call. You need to get help.’ And it was something I’ve been wanting to say for years,” Tamra revealed. “She’s been in a bad place for 10 years. At what point do you take responsibility and change your own life?”
“Right now, I don’t have any intention of being friends with her. And you guys don’t even know how toxic it was,” she continued of their past relationship.
Meanwhile, in a chat about Katie’s dinner, which saw her butting heads with Jennifer Pedranti’s fiance due to claims he made against her and her husband, Eddie Judge, 51, on a podcast, Tamra revealed that before dinner, they agreed not to pay Ryan “any attention.”
“Going into the dinner, I wasn’t really planning on doing that. It wasn’t on my radar,” Tamra told Us Weekly on September 26. “I was going to just be cordial.”
But after three martinis, that changed.
“When I was sitting at the table with Jen, I said, ‘Jen, remember what we talked about prior to this dinner? This isn’t in between me and you. This is between me and Ryan,’” Tamra recalled. “‘You want to come for me, Ryan? Come for me all you want. You want to call me a clown and call me ugly and old and my kids don’t like me and all that stuff? Have about it if it makes you feel good, little boy. Go ahead and do it, but when you start coming after my husband and my kids, I don’t have the patience for that.’ I will tell you exactly how I feel.”
Although she and Eddie agreed to ignore Ryan at the dinner before they went in, Tamra believed he got what he deserved.
“He was just really acting like an insecure child,” she alleged. “If you come on the show and you’re doing shady sh*t, you should expect it.”
After then noting that Eddie and Shane Simpson have never gone on rants against castmates on social media or podcasts, despite being attacked on the show, Tamra said that they were “very secure guys,” unlike Ryan.
“They don’t get involved with girl drama,” Tamra said. “Eddie taught me something, which I think is a very good lesson. He’s like, ‘Listen, don’t worry about what other people are saying about you [or] worry about what other people think about you. Worry about what you think about yourself.’ So Ryan’s not a guy that probably thinks that highly of himself, and he’s a little b*tch.”
Despite being quite vocal against Ryan in the past due to his potential ties to an MLB gambling scandal, Tamra, who has since been hit with a lawsuit from him, said she doesn’t “have any other words [for Ryan] ever again.”
“This guy is bad news,” she declared.
As for Jennifer, Tamra added, “She’s somebody that comes off very sweet and kind, and, let’s just say, her words don’t match her actions in life. Very self-produced. I’m starting to think they’re the same person. She’s no angel — and he’s not a Dodger player!”
The Real Housewives of Orange County season 18 airs Thursdays at 9/8c on Bravo.
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