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Angie Katsanevas Claps Back at Lisa’s “Center Snowflake” Dig

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October 21, 2025
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Angie Katsanevas Claps Back at Lisa’s “Center Snowflake” Dig

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Angie Katsanevas clapped back at Lisa Barlow’s “center snowflake” dig, and she shared what she allegedly told Angie off-camera in a past season. The Real Housewives of Salt Lake City star also revealed why her experience on Wife Swap: The Real Housewives Edition was “humbling.”

In a recent interview, Lisa seemed to shade Angie’s center position in the opening credits of the show. She suggested that ‘center snowflake’ doesn’t really matter, as it’s based more on height and hair color.

Speaking to ET, Angie was asked where she stands with Lisa, given her recent shade about center snowflake.

“That was definitely just [Lisa’s] way of trying to downplay center snowflake,” said Angie. “To me, I am so honored to hold the center snowflake. Everybody wants it. It has nothing to do with height. We’re not the Rockettes. We’re not all supposed to be certain heights and have a certain length of legs. We all know it’s based on what you contribute to the show.”

“It means I showed up. It means I gave personal story,” she went on. “I worked hard, and I was authentic, and I shared with the viewers my real life. So yeah, her downplaying me center snowflake came as no surprise.”

She then revealed what Lisa allegedly once said off-camera.

“There was a time that [Lisa] used to talk about center snowflake to me and make sure that I knew she was supposed to be center snowflake, but that they just had positioned Heather [Gay] a little close to her, so … people were confused,” Angie recalled. “So we know it’s a big deal. It’s all over the internet. It’s a big deal, and I’m not gonna pretend I’m not proud of it.”

Speaking to Decider, Angie addressed why her Wife Swap experience was “humbling.” In the show, Angie swapped lives with the wife of an Idaho family who lives off the grid.

“Oh, my God! I’ve never seen [a compost toilet before],” said Angie, who only uses heated bidet toilets in her own home. “I didn’t know. The little boy [of the family I stayed with] even said, ‘You don’t have to change it every day. Sometimes we can use it 40 times before you change it.’ It doesn’t drop anywhere. A compost toilet is a bag that just catches it. Like a little poop bag for your dog. But a giant poop bag. It was humbling, to say the least.”

She added that the experience stayed with her.

“You step into someone else’s shoes and see their life. If we don’t have takeaways, it would have been a waste,” she explained. “If there’s no transformation, it would have been a waste.”



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