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Gretchen Claims Matt Said Eddie is Gay, Katie Blames Jenn for Lost Paycheck

Connie Marie by Connie Marie
November 14, 2025
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Gretchen Claims Matt Said Eddie is Gay, Katie Blames Jenn for Lost Paycheck

The Real Housewives of Orange County reunion continues. Tamra seems to be the common denominator in many of these arguments, but when Katie’s husband, Matt, arrives, the focus changes.  Gretchen’s tactic is to deny and Jenn‘s is to forget anything that ever happened.  Katie is tired of the lies and Matt is ready to set the record straight about “holding the line.”

Tamra is forever bringing up old dirt about people. In an attempt to defend herself, Tamra freaks out, claiming she does not even talk about Gretchen.  Andy finally steps in to move the show along and switches from Gretchen vs. Tamra to Jenn vs. Tamra.  Look who always seems to be involved in the drama…

Jenn and Tamra have no relationship because, according to Jenn, Tamra is hard to navigate. Jenn believes Tamra always tries to make people think Jenn is not who she pretends to be. But Tamra feels like Jenn focused on her because she wanted to be on the show.  It’s odd that Tamra is bringing this up now, considering she never appeared to be on bad terms with Katie when she first came onto the show.

Tamra rattles off all the ways Jenn tries to be like her, but can we actually believe any of them?  For starters, Jenn was never Tamra’s neighbor, considering Tamra moved off the block around the time Jenn moved in. Jenn even points out that Tamra invited her to do a fitness competition; therefore, she was not trying to single-white-female-Tamra!

Tamra denies being jealous of Gretchen and Jenn, especially when it comes to their looks.  It is odd that Tamra would bring up the infamous fatty photo of Jenn, though.  Heather believes there was no “ill-intent” coming from Tamra, but  Tamra admits she showed the photo to be shady.  Andy jumps in to remind Tamra that there is an OC look, so it’s probably not as deep as Tamra thinks it is- so no, Jenn is NOT trying to be Tamra.

During an episode, Tamra insinuated that Jenn had an affair at her old yoga studio with an instructor, but Jenn denies this allegation. Tamra simply hears rumors and puts them into the universe.  Jenn admits that she did have an affair and now she is with Ryan and wonders why Tamra’s go-to is to just throw something mean out there to make it stick.

Although Jenn does not have a set wedding date, the women, especially Emily,  have her back. When it comes to Ryan “oversexualizing” Jenn, she has some insecurities. Jenn worries that this yearning will die out.  Her co-parenting is finally evening out and Will even thanked Ryan for taking the kids in. 

Gina talks about the questionable friendship between Shannon and Jenn. Jenn claims they are truly tight and is forever indebted to Shannon for throwing her a bridal shower (that she never really wanted). Gina admits to being salty over Shannon’s attention to Jenn, but Shannon wonders why Gina would need to say she is “worried” about her actions.

Heather is annoyed with Gina because they are both putting themselves back into the world, working once again.  When Gina made fun of Heather’s comedic career, Heather felt hurt.  It seems like any time Heather mentions her career, the other ladies sh*t all over it.   Gina admits that this was an error and apologizes, despite doubling-down in her interview.

They take a break for lunch and Katie’s husband, Matt, arrives on set. She gets a little emotional talking about how Jenn denied calling her con-artist.  Matt scoffs at this, claiming Jenn is the one getting married to a guy who did a deal with the feds!  

When Shannon goes to visit Jenn, we learn about a phone call Jenn got from Ryan.  Ryan let Jenn know that Katie made it a point to talk to a friend of theirs named Nicole.  Katie apparently asked Nicole if Ryan was involved in Matt’s illegal bookie business, which is an odd thing to ask ANYONE.  Jenn is furious once she finds this out because she knows Katie was just trying to get dirt to use against her.

Katie is finally ready for the truth to come to light.  She is irked because she always defended Jenn, but Jenn seemingly hung Katie out to dry when sh*t hit the fan. When it comes to the racially insensitive video Gretchen and Jenn posted, Jenn is angry that Katie came at her.  “How dare you think that it’s racist?” Jenn questions Katie, stating that Katie should know Jenn’s intentions better than that.

On top of that, Jenn never officially apologized for this until today.  Even Gretchen said she was sorry…sure it was a Chat GPT message, but it was done.  Katie get can’t over how she was not only offended, but then blamed by Jenn for the backlash.

Jenn states that Katie, apparently, always had an ear to the ground and always knew things about the ladies and their families. Katie is hell bent on this roofie story and wonders why Jenn is not backing her up.

Andy takes a moment to reset the naked-wasted drama. Last year, Ryan, Jenn, Matt, Katie, Slade, and Gretchen went to dinner (before Gretchen was even on the show).  Katie alleges that Gretchen said she went to the hospital after Tamra drugged her that evening so long ago. Jenn seemingly only remembers SOME details, then claimed she didn’t know anything about it, but knew details the next day.  Seems fishy.

Gretchen told Jenn she was so sick she probably could have gone to the hospital.  Gretchen understands that her “miscommunication” reliving the traumatic experience made her say words she did not intend.  Shannon claims we are all guilty of misspeaking, but Gretchen saying she DID go to the hospital is certainly not misspeaking, according to this group. After all, Gretchen did pass the lie detector test because she did not go to the hospital, yet Katie said Gretchen told her she had a positive toxicology report. 

Slade, Ryan, and Matt were invited to come to the reunion, but the only one who comes is Matt. Matt jumps right in (despite shaking) talking about the 911 text message he received from Slade. According to Matt, Slade was directing him to tell Katie to “hold the line” with Gretchen about the naked wasted account.

Matt claims that Gretchen and Slade chose to tell this story about Tamra to highlight just how dangerous Tamra can be.  He goes on to say this story went into great detail about a drugging and a hospital stay.

As Gretchen gets backed into a corner, she throws out that Matt said some messed up stuff that night at dinner, too, including Matt saying, “the second I met Eddie, I knew he was gay.” However, Katie claims that Gretchen is the one who said that to begin with!

Matt threatens Gretchen with, “do you wanna get into it?” multiple times as Gretchen interrupts left and right.  Matt says there are phone logs and records proving Slade’s need to manipulate the narrative. Gretchen explains that Slade thinks Matt and Katie are not only talking to bloggers, but making up stories about Gretchen and Slade! 

Andy points out that if Gretchen actually went to the hospital so long ago, it would have been a HUGE deal.  Katie knows Gretchen lied about going, but she is not the one responsible for the lie.  It seems like Gretchen got caught up in the tale and perhaps embellished it a bit for her audience? It is interesting that Slade is not there to share his side of the story. 

Matt points out that Gretchen is Slade’s fourth Housewife, but Gretchen corrects him. She is his third.  Katie claims that Jenn messed with her paycheck and livelihood when she let Katie go down in flames.  This enrages Jenn.  Jenn wants Katie to start taking ownership of the situation.  And, at the end of the day, Jenn lost a friend in Katie…

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