RHOC’s Tamra Judge Discusses Why Eddie Was “Upset” With Her, Vows to Never Speak to Ryan Again, Shades Jenn as “Self-Produced,” and Shares New Reason She Quit Tres Amigas, Plus Talks “Gross” Vicki Using Her to Launch Podcast

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Tamra Judge went to bat with Ryan Boyajian on a recent episode of The Real Housewives of Orange County. But, is even more drama on its way?

During a recent interview, Tamra, 57, spoke of where she stands with Ryan, 46, shaded his fiance, Jennifer Pedranti, 47, and reflected on her on-camera drinking habits while also explaining why she quit the Tres Amigas, reacting to her latest drama with Vicki Gunvalson, 62, and discussing the feud between Emily Simpson, 48, and Heather Dubrow, 55.

“I don’t have any other words with [Ryan] ever again. I never will [speak to him again]. This guy is bad news,” Tamra confirmed to Us Weekly on October 5.

As for her status with Jennifer, Tamra noted that her drama with Ryan had nothing to do with her relationship with Jennifer before shading her castmate as phony.

“I think she’s somebody that comes off very sweet and kind and let’s just say, her words don’t match her actions in life. [She’s] very self-produced,” Tamra stated.

Looking back on her messy encounter with Ryan, during which she suggested his home had been raided by the FBI due to his alleged involvement in an MLB gambling scandal, Tamra admitted to having too much to drink.

“I have not been drunk since that night. I woke up the next day, I didn’t know what happened … [Eddie Judge] was upset with me and I just made a point right there, I’m like, never again,” Tamra recalled, proceeding to take a shot at Shannon Beador, 60.

“It doesn’t take me driving my car into a house,” she stated.

When she was asked if Jennifer would be making a mistake by marrying Ryan, Tamra had mixed feelings.

“Yeah, well, I don’t know. I’m starting to think they’re the same person. She’s no angel. And he’s no Dodger player,” she shared.

At the end of last year, after Shannon was arrested for DUI, Tamra opted out of their Tres Amigas tour. But, while it has been stated that she did so because Shannon had drank at one of their shows, Tamra said there was much more to her exit.

“They make it look like I just quit. That’s not what happened. There [were] many conversations,” she clarified, noting that she was too busy for the schedule. “I have four podcasts. I have two houses. I have a daughter that just started college and a husband and I just can’t take off and leave like that, not to mention my other businesses.”

Meanwhile, Tamra continued, Vicki and Shannon “don’t have much.”

“Shannon doesn’t have a husband. She doesn’t have a job. And Vicki, I’m not sure if she has a job either,” she suggested.

Following years of friendship with Vicki, Tamra said she’s officially “done” as she accused her former friend of using her to promote her new podcast.

“I’m done. She went after me … She’s got some lame podcast she’s trying to get off the ground. Between her and her co-host, I think they’ve had five failed podcasts. She’s trying to get people to listen. So how’s she doing that? She’s coming after me,” Tamra revealed. “I reached out, I’m like, ‘What are you doing? Do you have a problem with me?’ Her thing was, ‘I’m sticking up for Shannon.’ I’m like, ‘Oh come on, what are we in high school? I’ve known you way longer than you’ve known Shannon and you and Shannon haven’t always had the best relationship so maybe you guys are meant to be together.’ I want to hang out and surround myself with positive people, not people that backstab.”

As RHOC fans may have seen, Vicki brought Tamra’s estranged daughter, Sidney Barney, up amid their feud weeks ago, suggesting that Tamra didn’t care enough about her oldest child to leave the show.

“She was just spewing lies. Everything she said was an absolute lie,” Tamra stated “She has no details of what has happened to my family and to my children’s lives. For her to go out and say it just shows her true character. I couldn’t imagine even to my worst enemy to go and do that like she did. And to think I had a relationship with her for almost 20 years, to do that is gross.”

Also during the interview, Tamra shared her thoughts on the drama between Emily and Heather, which arose after Emily, who has struggled with her weight, felt singled out by Heather asking her to bring her own jeans to her fashion show.

“I didn’t understand it at the beginning because Heather asked [all of] us to bring different clothing items to mix and match with the designer’s clothes,” Tamra recalled. “I’m like, ‘Wait, I was told to bring a shirt.’ We all were. And at the actual fashion show, I didn’t notice her being upset. So when we were at Jen’s house … I just felt like it came out of nowhere.”

Tamra also felt like Emily was reaching for a moment.

“I thought, ‘Oh God, this is just trying.’ You know sometimes girls try to do things on the show to make it a thing, it’s my biggest pet peeve, and just kind of trying too hard because I didn’t witness any of that,” she shared.

However, once she spoke to Emily directly, she understood where she was coming from.

“I had talked with her, I’m like, ‘Okay, I get it, it’s your own insecurities.’ I thought she was accusing Heather of fat shaming. I was actually really mad because I’m like, ‘Heather would never do that,’” she noted.

The Real Housewives of Orange County season 18 airs Thursdays at 9/8c on Bravo.