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Hacks’ Rose Abdoo Teases Josefina and Deborah’s Changing Dynamic

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April 3, 2025
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Hacks’ Rose Abdoo Teases Josefina and Deborah’s Changing Dynamic
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Rose Abdoo is just as excited about season 4 of Hacks as even the most ardent superfan.

Speaking to Us Weekly exclusively at PaleyFest LA, Abdoo, 62, gave fans a peek into what to expect when the new season premieres. According to Abdoo, the season will show a deepening relationship between the show’s main character, Deborah Vance (Jean Smart), and her estate manager, Josefina (Abdoo).

“This season, you can see how worried Josefina is for Deborah because Deborah has a ton of pressure and is trying to be very controlling. And Josefina is also controlling,” Abdoo said. “She’s not just my boss. They really, really love her. Josefina loves Deborah and wants the best for her and worries about her health all the time.”

The worry that Abdoo adds to the character comes from a familiar place.

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There was some stiff competition in the Outstanding Lead Actress in a Comedy Series category at the 2024 Emmy Awards. Jean Smart ultimately won the award for Hacks during the Sunday, September 15, ceremony, which was held at the Peacock Theater in Los Angeles. “Thank you so, so much,” Smart, 73, said after receiving a […]

“That’s the one thing that I did, based the character loosely on my mother,” she continued. “There’s aspects of my own mother in it that is that she can just look at her and go, ‘You don’t feel good. And you are not drinking enough water.’ She knows things about her.”

That’s all Abdoo would share about the upcoming season — she couldn’t expand even if she wanted to.

“This is the truth, is that not only do I not want to give spoilers, but I genuinely don’t remember,” she admitted. “And then when I watch it at home, I watch it like a fan … I was as excited as a fan. I am the super fan of this show, truly. And to work on a show where I’m also a fan of the show is just a dream come true. Truly. It really is.”

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J. Smith-Cameron is hopeful that she’ll return to Hacks as Kathy Vance should the opportunity arise. “It was a dream come true,” Smith-Cameron, 66, exclusively told Us Weekly on Tuesday, June 4, while promoting her partnership with Jif for its Jif Peanut Butter & Chocolate Flavored Spread campaign. “I had been a fan of the […]

Season 3 of Hacks ended with Deborah offering — and then revoking the offer — to be head writer to Ava on her new late-night show. Ava then blackmails Deborah, telling her that if she does not give her the role, then she would disclose that Deborah slept with the network’s owner shortly before it was announced that she got the late-night gig.

The move is one Deborah herself might have made if she was in the same position and, as Abdoo said, Smart is exactly the actress she would want to see react to that betrayal.

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“Just to watch, be close up to watch Jean do her thing — the best. It’s the best,” she said. “It’s a masterclass, really.”

Hacks season 4 will premiere Thursday, April 10 at 9 p.m. ET on Max.

With reporting by Mariel Turner.



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