How are you feeling about Americana finally hitting theaters? I know you worked on this a few years back.
Americana is legitimately my favorite movie I’ve ever made, which you can print. I’m not worried about any social blowback there. I just think it’s wildly original, the script was so attractive. It was all about the writing, and Sydney Sweeney was just on the come up where everyone was starting to find out who she was because of White Lotus and Euphoria. When we wrapped, we were told it would go to a festival. A year later, we had it at SXSW in Austin, and we got great reviews, so we were like, “Oh, we’re sitting pretty.” Then we were just sitting. There was no pretty. We were wondering what the hell happened.
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Where do you think you’re at as an actor in terms of selecting projects? Do you feel you’d found the space you fit in or do you have things you’re still hoping to explore?
There’s so much I haven’t done that I want to do desperately. Kevin Costner offered me a part in Horizon, but it was one line of dialogue and the character had nothing to them. I don’t need to be a piece of furniture in anybody’s movie. I love Kevin Costner, and I want to work with him, and it’d be an honor, but I also want to do something good. The same thing with Luca Guadagnino, [who] offered me [a role] to play the tennis judge during the big matches in Challengers. I could tell it was going to be something, and I love Luca, and he’s been nothing but sweet to me, but also I feel way too competitive and way too hungry to eat garnish and pretend it’s a meal. I would rather hold out for the right thing. On the day I’m just going to be all hungry, and then I’m going to look stupid and then I’m going to feel awkward. In Hollywood, I don’t feel like I fit in at all.
Really?
No, I’m an outspoken Jesus guy, but I also can’t stand Donald Trump. I no longer live in L.A. I am obsessed with professional wrestling, and I’ve made somewhat of a career out of that. In a weird way, I almost feel like I fit in the wrestling world more than I do in Hollywood. I’m a way better actor than I am a wrestler, but I just… I don’t know, when I walk into a wrestling arena and there’s a bunch of nerdy fans with signs and autograph stuff, and I feel like one of them. Whereas, when I’m at a Hollywood function or a premiere, it feels like that awkward high school thing [where] there’s a bunch of pretty people who are saying all the right things, and I’m the only one who wants to truly be some sort of unleashed version of themselves, and I feel very alone in that for some reason.
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